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Subject: Top rail hood fasteners
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alanhale
Posts:22
Posted:05/11/2006 1:18 AM

I've been looking into how I'm going to rivet the top rail fasteners onto the top rail of my car without damging the new paint work. I believe I need to purchase a rivet squeezer with the correct dies. Has anyone attemped this in the past? Am I on the right track here? or is there another way of doing it. And where would I buy the correct tools to do the job.

Thanks Again

Alan Hale



ryans
Posts:16
Posted:05/11/2006 3:43 PM
Alan, I recently had the same problem. I  made a very simple tool to install the rivets in both the top rail and in the top material. It works great. I would be glad to loan it to you, if you you agree to return it right back ( I want to take it on the trip to Grand Rapids-just in case). Please send me your address. Steve Ryan.

alanhale
Posts:22
Posted:05/11/2006 11:31 PM

Steve

Thanks for the offer but I live in Australia. I would certainly return it to you but there is always a chance it could go missing in the mail. Could I ask you to post a photo or picture of it and at least I will have an idea and I can make my own tool.

Thanks

Alan Hale



ryans
Posts:16
Posted:05/12/2006 10:55 AM
I will send pictures and a short description to Bill this weekend and he can post them. Steve

A400 Guy
Posts:57
Posted:05/12/2006 12:02 PM

Hello Alan:

I used a standard rivit setting tool and turned the nose of it down in a lathe to fit inside the top rail snap. I then used a fairly heavy bucking bar on the inside of the top rail to secure the head of rivit and rolled the rivits over using the tool and a small hammer. It's a two person operation but it worked well for me. I used stainless steel rivits from Big Flats Rivit Co and I bought the setting tool from McMaster-Carr .(www.mcmaster.com)

Hope this helps.

A400 Guy

 

 



bill
Posts:109
Posted:05/13/2006 2:08 PM
 I promised to send a quick description and some photos of a top snap riveter that I made. I did not want to damage the fresh paint job and planned on doing the job myself. The following tool is very simple, inexpensive and works very well.
 
1.) The basic riveter was purchased from the Bratton's catalog. It is a Bob Drake made item that is designed to remove door hinge pins. It did not work very well as designed and has been sitting on my tool shelf, idle for the past several years. (Pic #002). I am sure that with a little investigating an off the self "C" clamp could be modified to do the same job.
 
2.) I purchased a top snap repair kit from Sears item #9-74638 (Pic #009). This kit has the same top snaps that come with the Lebaron Bonny kit  and swaging tools.
 
3.) In picture  #003 is the exploded view how I put the simple riveter together in about 1 hour of prep time. I sanded the swaging tool (rivet up-setter) so it would fit into the existing cavity in the Bob Drake "C" clamp bolt. To hold the head of the rivet (anvil) I used a simple bolt that fit the open hole in the "C" clamp (Pic # 007). This configuration was used to install the top rail rivets. If I wanted to switch to the top fabric snaps, I made a cup to hold the nylon anvil, which goes against the outside head of the snap (Pic# 006).
 
4.) In trial and error experiments on the extra Sears snaps, I determined that it would take just under one revolution of the "C" clamp bolt to upset or swage the rivets. No noise or wildly swinging hammers needed.
 
Steve Ryan
 
The photos will be uploaded three with this reply and two in a second reply











bill
Posts:109
Posted:05/13/2006 2:09 PM
Here are the other two pictures







alanhale
Posts:22
Posted:05/14/2006 6:02 AM

Thankyou to everyone. I'll give this a shot.

Alan



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